4AB. Raymond Cecil Gilbert was born in Birmingham, Alabama, on Tuesday, August 21, 1928. Marian Louise Subora was born in Appleton, Wisconsin, on Saturday, November 1, 1930. They were married in Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo County, Michigan, on Saturday, August 30, 1952. She took the name Marian Louise Gilbert. He is the son of Raymond Cecil Gilbert and Thelma Perrine Gilbert. She is the daughter of Ernest Joseph and Doris Harriet (Ackerman) Subora. He changed his name from Sabourin to Subora. They had two children:
| i. | Stephen R Gilbert [#4ABA]: He was born in Grand Rapids, Kent County, Michigan, on April 12, 1957. | |
| ii. | Stanley R Gilbert [#4ABB]: He was born in Three Rivers, Michigan, on November 25, 1958. |
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| Ray and Marian Gilbert Dec 1992 |
He and Marian lived in Grand Rapids, then Three Rivers, where he worked for the Three Rivers Rubber Company as a mold designer. In 1973 the family moved to Wichita, Kansas, where he had accepted a job with Wescon Products Company, a plastics company, as a sales engineer. He provided design specifics and cost estimates for items to be constructed of plastic. Raymond's perfectionist and artistic traits served him well in this position. He retired on December 31, 1995, and remained in Wichita.
Marian was a librarian for several years, then an office manager for
the Carrier Air Conditioning Company.